So,
What do you guys think is better. Hosting videos of your shows and clips of shows on your own website, or using an outside site (YouTube or Google Video)?
What are the pros and cons of both?
Is it better to host short clips on your own site, and stick the 40 minute videos on Google Video?
Thoughts, opinions go here (all you techies!)
Also, what's the best format for a video (if it's going online)?
Hosting Videos of Shows and Shit.
Everything else, basically.
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- phlounderphil Offline
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I used to be really opposed to hosting stuff elsewhere, but these days I'd go with YouTube. The flash-based player is really slick, you can embed the videos in your own site, and you get the added bonus of lots of people just finding you through YouTube.
The only downside is that a lot of workplaces block big sites like YouTube as a matter of course.
The only downside is that a lot of workplaces block big sites like YouTube as a matter of course.
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Re: Hosting Videos of Shows and Shit.
Yep. That's what we do, and we're awesome, so, there you go.phlounderphil wrote: Is it better to host short clips on your own site, and stick the 40 minute videos on Google Video?
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- arclight Offline
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El Cheapo
Next question: what's the easiest way to transfer and edit miniDV video, given that I'm really cheap? That means I prefer free (not stolen) software and commodity hardware. Or should I just bite the bullet and buy a Mac Mini & iMovie and be done with it?
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- Brian Boyko Offline
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You need to find out what your provider's bandwidth is.
One of the problems with video is that it is, no matter how you slice it, BIG once you get beyond crappy quality and 30 seconds.
I am constantly amazed that you can get an Xvid to be near-DVD quality for around 350 MB per hour of video. Which means that if I wanted to I could get a DVD quality XviD of the show I recorded up on my website - I have a 1 GB file maximum.
The problem is that I only have a 10 gigabyte bandwidth per month cap. Everytime you view the file, someone's downloading it. So that 350 file will kill your website after 30 downloads or so, and you don't want that.
You could get maybe 100 downloads at "iPod video" H.264 compression and the "1/4 of a DVD but good enough for television" 360x240. Then you're talking about 30 MB per download. You can still run through that pretty damn quickly - ESPECIALLY if the video takes off.
My personal solution is this; Run short clips on your site, host large videos on YouTube or Google Video, and let people who love the show either download the episode for a small fee or buy the DVD for a large one.
No matter WHAT you choose to host the file with, I would suggest making a 720x480 (DVD NTSC) XviD file for your own archival purposes. You can put 9 hours worth of those files onto a DVD-RW (single layer) drive and use them as "compessed masters" for making all sorts of format files just in case you lose the original uncompressed video tape.
Editing miniDV video: Honestly don't know how to do so on a PC, with the exception of Adobe Premiere Elements. I'm sure there's an open source product out there, and probably some freeware program from Microsoft that either comes with Windows XP or that you can download (I'm thinking Windows Movie Maker or something like that.)
iMovie, however, is probably the most fully-featured of the "simple" video editing programs.
You can probably use the digital camera that it came with provided the digital camera has a firewire or USB 2.0 connection.
One of the problems with video is that it is, no matter how you slice it, BIG once you get beyond crappy quality and 30 seconds.
I am constantly amazed that you can get an Xvid to be near-DVD quality for around 350 MB per hour of video. Which means that if I wanted to I could get a DVD quality XviD of the show I recorded up on my website - I have a 1 GB file maximum.
The problem is that I only have a 10 gigabyte bandwidth per month cap. Everytime you view the file, someone's downloading it. So that 350 file will kill your website after 30 downloads or so, and you don't want that.
You could get maybe 100 downloads at "iPod video" H.264 compression and the "1/4 of a DVD but good enough for television" 360x240. Then you're talking about 30 MB per download. You can still run through that pretty damn quickly - ESPECIALLY if the video takes off.
My personal solution is this; Run short clips on your site, host large videos on YouTube or Google Video, and let people who love the show either download the episode for a small fee or buy the DVD for a large one.
No matter WHAT you choose to host the file with, I would suggest making a 720x480 (DVD NTSC) XviD file for your own archival purposes. You can put 9 hours worth of those files onto a DVD-RW (single layer) drive and use them as "compessed masters" for making all sorts of format files just in case you lose the original uncompressed video tape.
Editing miniDV video: Honestly don't know how to do so on a PC, with the exception of Adobe Premiere Elements. I'm sure there's an open source product out there, and probably some freeware program from Microsoft that either comes with Windows XP or that you can download (I'm thinking Windows Movie Maker or something like that.)
iMovie, however, is probably the most fully-featured of the "simple" video editing programs.
You can probably use the digital camera that it came with provided the digital camera has a firewire or USB 2.0 connection.
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- Brian Boyko Offline
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Formats:
Okay,you have your basic Streaming Video encoding, which are:
QuickTime
WMP
RealVideo
Of the three I would honestly probably go for WMP for compatability, and Quicktime for quality. Quicktime offers the best video quality, and if you encode in Quicktime H.264, you get the smallest file size as well. WMP however, is no slouch, and any Windows XP computer has the filetype built in - some people still haven't downloaded quicktime yet.
Realvideo sucks. No question.
For download-and-play quality, you have:
DivX
XviD
H.264
These will all produce AVI files. DivX is payware, XviD is freeware and looks better to boot; download and use XviD. You can get information on encoding stuff at this forum: www.afterdawn.com
H.264 gives you a higher quality at a smaller file size, but there are two drawbacks. XviD is a widely established standard, H.264 can only be used with Quicktime player 7.0, with VLC, or if someone downloads the codec directly. XviD encodes in hours, H.264 encodes in days.
Okay,you have your basic Streaming Video encoding, which are:
QuickTime
WMP
RealVideo
Of the three I would honestly probably go for WMP for compatability, and Quicktime for quality. Quicktime offers the best video quality, and if you encode in Quicktime H.264, you get the smallest file size as well. WMP however, is no slouch, and any Windows XP computer has the filetype built in - some people still haven't downloaded quicktime yet.
Realvideo sucks. No question.
For download-and-play quality, you have:
DivX
XviD
H.264
These will all produce AVI files. DivX is payware, XviD is freeware and looks better to boot; download and use XviD. You can get information on encoding stuff at this forum: www.afterdawn.com
H.264 gives you a higher quality at a smaller file size, but there are two drawbacks. XviD is a widely established standard, H.264 can only be used with Quicktime player 7.0, with VLC, or if someone downloads the codec directly. XviD encodes in hours, H.264 encodes in days.
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Search your heart. You know the answer already.arclight wrote:Or should I just bite the bullet and buy a Mac Mini & iMovie and be done with it?
PGraph plays every Thursday at 8pm! https://www.hideouttheatre.com/shows/pgraph/