Proof that you can put whatever you want in a book
Posted: March 4th, 2006, 6:29 am
so bill has started taking classes at improv olympic. he had his first class last week with charna in level one. required reading for the course is the book she co-authored with del close, truth in comedy. he's been reading and agreeing with various points, disagreeing with others. one that we both disagreed with was the conception that The Harold is what all longform is based on. But it was the first line of her bio in the back of the book that pisses me off the most.
"Charna Halpern
The only living creator of long form improvisation, Charna Halpern. . ."
WTF? How can she have the gaul to claim to be the only person alive to have created long form improv? First of all, the term 'long form' is so loosely used that it applies to more than just the antiquated form she developed with Del.
There are plenty of people in this prov game that have developed and used long form completely independent of Chicago schools. I didn't even know what a Harold was (nor could I get people who DID know explain to me what the hell it was) until I finally saw one at IO a couple years ago.
i discussed it with bill and he brought up that saying you're a creator of long form improv is like saying Newton was the creator of physics. it's not an invention so much as a discovery but even if someone said she discovered long form improv, that still doesn't seem to make sense to me. what it should say is that she is the only living creator of The Harold, and I'm sure there are a couple other people alive or dead who would claim they had a hand in it's creation as well.
Kids playing 'house' is long form improv.
And what about Keith Johnstone. Damn. just cuz a guy's British and lives in Canada doesn't mean he doesn't exist. most of the time. which opens up a whole other can of worms; americans are soooo short sighted. our understanding reaches only as far as our borders. beyond that, things are too often ignored.
i'm just cheesed that someone can just say something, print it, and have people believe it, as i'm sure most who read that do. kind of like a lot of american history thats been scrubbed clean of our accidents and faults.
and i'm not trying to take away from what the improv olympic has accomplished. it certainly is amazing and they've trained so many great actors and comedians and managed to stay open showcasing strictly improv. and i'm sure charna is a nice person and a great teacher. but just because you run the world of 3541 N. Clark, doesn't mean you can write false history.
this is partly why i don't read improv books.
b
"Charna Halpern
The only living creator of long form improvisation, Charna Halpern. . ."
WTF? How can she have the gaul to claim to be the only person alive to have created long form improv? First of all, the term 'long form' is so loosely used that it applies to more than just the antiquated form she developed with Del.
There are plenty of people in this prov game that have developed and used long form completely independent of Chicago schools. I didn't even know what a Harold was (nor could I get people who DID know explain to me what the hell it was) until I finally saw one at IO a couple years ago.
i discussed it with bill and he brought up that saying you're a creator of long form improv is like saying Newton was the creator of physics. it's not an invention so much as a discovery but even if someone said she discovered long form improv, that still doesn't seem to make sense to me. what it should say is that she is the only living creator of The Harold, and I'm sure there are a couple other people alive or dead who would claim they had a hand in it's creation as well.
Kids playing 'house' is long form improv.
And what about Keith Johnstone. Damn. just cuz a guy's British and lives in Canada doesn't mean he doesn't exist. most of the time. which opens up a whole other can of worms; americans are soooo short sighted. our understanding reaches only as far as our borders. beyond that, things are too often ignored.
i'm just cheesed that someone can just say something, print it, and have people believe it, as i'm sure most who read that do. kind of like a lot of american history thats been scrubbed clean of our accidents and faults.
and i'm not trying to take away from what the improv olympic has accomplished. it certainly is amazing and they've trained so many great actors and comedians and managed to stay open showcasing strictly improv. and i'm sure charna is a nice person and a great teacher. but just because you run the world of 3541 N. Clark, doesn't mean you can write false history.
this is partly why i don't read improv books.
b