Bill Binder - Yesand (2 of 6)
Posted: March 18th, 2013, 12:16 pm
Original question for reference:
"I loved your Yesand workshop.
Can you please remind me the different levels of Yesand?
There are six class levels/sessions in most improv theaters.
1. Wouldn't it be cool if your levels of Yesand were taught at each one?
2. I haven't solidified it yet, but I also think there are different levels of listening that could also be taught in tandem with your different levels of Yesanding.
Examples of different levels of listening:
- first, just the words. Common exercises are to restart the scene and play your scene partners character. Also, having other folks replay the scene they just watched.
- then, listening with your body. Mirroring physicality etc.
- But now, I am reading a bunch of interviews with "the legends" who all talk about full body/emotional listening. If you watch Dave Pasquesi listen to someone, it's like he is trying to listen to them naked.
Trying to work on this myself lately.
Example of what I am getting at:
8 clasess
Class 1 of each session: new level of Yesand
Class 2 of each session: new level of Listening
Classes 3-8 of each session: the curriculum for that level"
Bill's reply
"Hi Joshua,
Sorry for the delay.
As to yes and. I think there are levels for sure that grow with you. I don't think it's necessarily a small series of big steps however. There are many small steps in yes and (with a couple of larger paradigm shifts)
I think a few of the big ways to yes and are
1. Listening to words (weakest kind of yes and)
2. Listening to subtext
3. Being aware of the context; the body language, environment
4. Supporting the emotional state of the scene
5. Listening to the actor above the character
I think all five of those can be happening at the same time, but they are usually learned in roughly that order. You could proably switch around 3 and 4.
You could definitely put a focus on one of those in different levels as the performer grows. But just as importantly, I believe, are the smaller steps.
What I mean is that we usually learn yes and in a vacuum. The only tools we have as improvisers are words on our first day, so that's what we're taught to yes and. I think that's fine, but yes and should be part of every class. Let's say Level I, class 5 (as a random example) is about object work. In level I, they probably haven't dealt too much with exploring the depth of their character. At that point object work is a very simple tool to help communicate environment.
So during object work ask, how do we "yes and" the object work. It's not too terribly complicated; don't walk through things, if someone swings a knife, allow yourself to step back cautiously. We teach these things already, but if we frame them in the context of "yes and", suddenly the thread of support through all work becomes easier to see.
An object - in this example - is very much like a word. Nothing too in depth, but we can yes and it the same way. Those students aren't really using the deeper skills of acting quite yet, but they know how to support
-
The first big step comes as the students begin to discover they can be emotionally connected with their characters; when choices on stage aren't invented for laughs, but discovered through their character, when they surprise themselves onstage letting their characters have real motivations and wants.
It's a big step, and it's important again to ask "how do we yes and this". People are complicated and so are good characters. When are scene partners are beginning to really be immersed in their characters, they'll be making gifts that aren't words or objects. They'll be in their body language, in the things not said, in the tone of their voice.
In the levels of class focusing on character work, be mindful of listening to those things above the words and yes anding them. Don't just mention this idea, point it out. Call out moments in a scene where a character is clearly going through something and their scene partner is missing it because they are focused on the words. Ask questions like "what does she really want?" or "why is she telling this to you?"
A good rule of thumb for me is to play just a bit paranoid in exercises like that. If someone tells me something, they probably have a reason. Why are they saying it now? Why are they saying it to me?
In real life we've all been afraid to say something, so we hope people pick up on it through what we do say. Listen like that and support those choices.
The final step is when the students are comfortable with their characters enough to let their characters fail. Sometimes we play tragic characters who will fail, or make naive choices even if we as actors know those choices will lead to a bad end. It's totally OK for our characters to not get what the want. They can fail. That's part of drama.
We need to yes and at this level as advanced students. Listening to what our scene partners - not their characters - want for the growth of their characters. I wrote something on this here
http://improv.whbinder.com/play-smart-s ... t-have-to/
I think when we listen to the actor, we have permission to say "no" to the character.
I hope that's helpful."
"I loved your Yesand workshop.
Can you please remind me the different levels of Yesand?
There are six class levels/sessions in most improv theaters.
1. Wouldn't it be cool if your levels of Yesand were taught at each one?
2. I haven't solidified it yet, but I also think there are different levels of listening that could also be taught in tandem with your different levels of Yesanding.
Examples of different levels of listening:
- first, just the words. Common exercises are to restart the scene and play your scene partners character. Also, having other folks replay the scene they just watched.
- then, listening with your body. Mirroring physicality etc.
- But now, I am reading a bunch of interviews with "the legends" who all talk about full body/emotional listening. If you watch Dave Pasquesi listen to someone, it's like he is trying to listen to them naked.
Trying to work on this myself lately.
Example of what I am getting at:
8 clasess
Class 1 of each session: new level of Yesand
Class 2 of each session: new level of Listening
Classes 3-8 of each session: the curriculum for that level"
Bill's reply
"Hi Joshua,
Sorry for the delay.
As to yes and. I think there are levels for sure that grow with you. I don't think it's necessarily a small series of big steps however. There are many small steps in yes and (with a couple of larger paradigm shifts)
I think a few of the big ways to yes and are
1. Listening to words (weakest kind of yes and)
2. Listening to subtext
3. Being aware of the context; the body language, environment
4. Supporting the emotional state of the scene
5. Listening to the actor above the character
I think all five of those can be happening at the same time, but they are usually learned in roughly that order. You could proably switch around 3 and 4.
You could definitely put a focus on one of those in different levels as the performer grows. But just as importantly, I believe, are the smaller steps.
What I mean is that we usually learn yes and in a vacuum. The only tools we have as improvisers are words on our first day, so that's what we're taught to yes and. I think that's fine, but yes and should be part of every class. Let's say Level I, class 5 (as a random example) is about object work. In level I, they probably haven't dealt too much with exploring the depth of their character. At that point object work is a very simple tool to help communicate environment.
So during object work ask, how do we "yes and" the object work. It's not too terribly complicated; don't walk through things, if someone swings a knife, allow yourself to step back cautiously. We teach these things already, but if we frame them in the context of "yes and", suddenly the thread of support through all work becomes easier to see.
An object - in this example - is very much like a word. Nothing too in depth, but we can yes and it the same way. Those students aren't really using the deeper skills of acting quite yet, but they know how to support
-
The first big step comes as the students begin to discover they can be emotionally connected with their characters; when choices on stage aren't invented for laughs, but discovered through their character, when they surprise themselves onstage letting their characters have real motivations and wants.
It's a big step, and it's important again to ask "how do we yes and this". People are complicated and so are good characters. When are scene partners are beginning to really be immersed in their characters, they'll be making gifts that aren't words or objects. They'll be in their body language, in the things not said, in the tone of their voice.
In the levels of class focusing on character work, be mindful of listening to those things above the words and yes anding them. Don't just mention this idea, point it out. Call out moments in a scene where a character is clearly going through something and their scene partner is missing it because they are focused on the words. Ask questions like "what does she really want?" or "why is she telling this to you?"
A good rule of thumb for me is to play just a bit paranoid in exercises like that. If someone tells me something, they probably have a reason. Why are they saying it now? Why are they saying it to me?
In real life we've all been afraid to say something, so we hope people pick up on it through what we do say. Listen like that and support those choices.
The final step is when the students are comfortable with their characters enough to let their characters fail. Sometimes we play tragic characters who will fail, or make naive choices even if we as actors know those choices will lead to a bad end. It's totally OK for our characters to not get what the want. They can fail. That's part of drama.
We need to yes and at this level as advanced students. Listening to what our scene partners - not their characters - want for the growth of their characters. I wrote something on this here
http://improv.whbinder.com/play-smart-s ... t-have-to/
I think when we listen to the actor, we have permission to say "no" to the character.
I hope that's helpful."