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Jeff wrote:[
Dang, Lance, way to find something to complain about. I'm sure the LOST crew could make it prettier with the time and money put into Titanic. I still believe LOST has some of the most interesting and thoughtful art direction on TV.
I love Lost... it's just funny that a show that's so popular still has such terrible CG effects. I don't really care... I like the design, it just takes me out sometimes.

And I was talking about the scene with the Alive Titanic morphed into the drowned Titanic.. but you're right, that was real footage otherwise.
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Lants wrote:I love Lost... it's just funny that a show that's so popular still has such terrible CG effects. I don't really care... I like the design, it just takes me out sometimes.
I feel the same way, Lance. I'm glad it happened at the beginning of the episode, because it pulled me all the way out of the experience. I like the show, but it's hard to not notice moments like those.
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York99 wrote:I'm wondering how Jeff and Chris can see the TV screen through the haze. There are some gigantic leaps going on here. Love it!
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zyrain wrote:Where are there parallels between those characters? Well, for one, nearly all of them have severe daddy issues. I would not be surprised to find out that Esau and Jacob are brothers.
Esau and Jacob are brothers.

Also, yeah, that underwater CG at the beginning was not that great.
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Justin D. wrote:
zyrain wrote:I would not be surprised to find out that Esau and Jacob are brothers.
Esau and Jacob are brothers.
Justin, that's why fans started calling the man in black Esau. But we don't know his name in LOST, nor do we know if he and Jacob are brothers.

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Jeff wrote:
Justin D. wrote:
zyrain wrote:I would not be surprised to find out that Esau and Jacob are brothers.
Esau and Jacob are brothers.
Justin, that's why fans started calling the man in black Esau. But we don't know his name in LOST, nor do we know if he and Jacob are brothers.
Yeah, I know. Just responding to Neal.
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Yes, gentlemen, I was referring to the CG effect of the Island being underwater (a la Titanic), but didn't mean to start a discussion regarding the CG quality. (I'm more bothered by continuity errors like the blood that appears and disappears from Juliet's mouth when she conks the bomb, and the person sleeping between Locke & Boone on the airplane, who clearly disappears from the two-shot of their conversation, then reappears in the master shot at the end of it.)

What do you think is the thematic significance? I'm guessing, that's where it ends up at the end of the show, with Oceanic 815 flying over it again.
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KathyRose wrote:What do you think is the thematic significance? I'm guessing, that's where it ends up at the end of the show, with Oceanic 815 flying over it again.
Now I see what you mean. Despite the video-game quality CGI, I was moved by the content of seeing the island underwater in that scene. (Sidebar: I'm a lifelong audiophile-- I love and seek out and listen for sounds that please me-- and that's probably another reason why I didn't mind the computer graphics in that scene. The sound of the splash when the perspective impacted the water had me like putty, and Michael Giacchino's score for that shot was thrilling and sweet. And there was a Dharma shark! Neat!).
But to address your question, Kathy, I tend to think that, at least for me, optimal enjoyment of LOST comes partly from a desire to laugh along with the story's cornucopia of red herrings and possibly never-answered questions. I know they're going to answer a lot of the big questions, and it's fine with me that it's almost a logistical impossibility to even broach all the answers in the final season. Like I said in an earlier post, I've loved that my ideas on how the series ends have changed many times over since season one.
So about whether I think the series ends with the island underwater, I'm agnostic. Its submersion we saw could be a result of exactly the alternate reality that causes Hurley to believe he's lucky, and Desmond to be on the plane (for a possibly shorter period of time than the other passengers of 815?), and Charlie to try to kill himself, and for Kate to escape police custody at the airport, and for Jack to lose his father's body in transit overseas.
The question this alternate reality has led me to ask myself is, is that the reality we want for our heroes at the end? To make that question more feasible to answer, is that what I want for them? To just bumble along with the rest of their lives, some happily, some sadly, but none of them having knowledge of the extraordinary journey they endured together as survivors of the island crash?
Nah, I want them to know exactly what they experienced. For that reason, I hope that the new alternate reality is merely a narrative device that allows for the people of the original time line to resolve their greatest conflicts (or, if the fates would have it, and the writers are brave enough, for some of their greatest conflicts to be lost, or tragically unresolved) so they may carry on for the remainder of their lives with memories of their bizarre adventure.
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York99 wrote:I'm wondering how Jeff and Chris can see the TV screen through the haze. There are some gigantic leaps going on here. Love it!
Gigantic leaps? Okay. You just gotta have...



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HerrHerr wrote:
York99 wrote:I'm wondering how Jeff and Chris can see the TV screen through the haze. There are some gigantic leaps going on here. Love it!
Gigantic leaps? Okay. You just gotta have...
♪FREEDOM! FREEDOM! FREEDOM! ♫

♪You gotta give for what you take! ♫

(... what? That's how the song goes, right?)

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This re-cap piece includes some good theorizing about what's going on in LOST. It even mentions what Neal was suggesting, that Jacob and Esau are from the future.
http://community.livejournal.com/lostdi ... tml#cutid1
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Jeff wrote:This re-cap piece includes some good theorizing about what's going on in LOST. It even mentions what Neal was suggesting, that Jacob and Esau are from the future.
http://community.livejournal.com/lostdi ... tml#cutid1
"Error: You are not authorized to view this protected entry." :(

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Some links:
* My blathering about 6x01.
* Ack_attack's recap of 6x01.
* Jorge Garcia's new podcast.

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