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smerlin wrote:I think this might be the video you are talking about, Nadine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSw ... ism_sells/
Whew, that Chris Matthews is particularly creepy.
Here's something that's a little lighter on the cellos: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index ... tle=sexism
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About half-way through the you-tube video...

Christopher Hitchens, Michelle Malkin, Chris Matthews, a bevy of FoxNews reporters...

These are people who regularly spew vitriol in all directions, not just towards the female gender. This does not take away from the unbelievably crass, inappropriate, and hurtful nature of their "commentary" (especially seeing it all in one place), but this tells me more that this is a problem with news media. I've heard nothing remotely sexist from anyone I've discussed politics with personally. Again, I'm not absolving or diminishing how shitty all of these clips are -- they're truly horrible -- but why are we watching these people? These people are wrongheaded when they speak in any capacity, about any subject. Getting riled up about these people gives them power they do not deserve.

The one specific sexist claim I remember distinctly hearing during the last few months of the democratic nomination was a few weeks ago when both the news media as well as senior Democratic leaders were vocally calling for Hillary to concede (because she was not winning by any measure and could not achieve a lead through any realistic means). On NPR I remember a woman at a Hillary rally claiming that this was sexist; that if it were a man in her place, no one would be asking her to step down. I believe that, if it were a man in her place, these same parties would actually be exponentially more vocal and demanding that he step down at this point in the nomination process.

(ps. some of us have indeed been following this thread :) )

EDIT: ...to just say that, having reread what i wrote, i tuly believe that sexism exists generally an in this election. But to use that youtube clip as evidence takes away from the more insideous and hidden ways that it exists and hurts. If we're going to talk about sexism, let's talk about that. C'mon, who can get riled up by anything Pat Robertson says anymore?
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Post by nadine »

That's a good point Bob.

I do feel that this country is very bipolar. Among us, (say the Austin Improv forum-ers) I really doubt that there are many people who think either gender as superior. And I don't think Justin is sexist either (for the record).

But there are many folks who watch Fox, even one of my smart yuppie co-worker listen to Rush Limbaugh. And yeah, half the country voted for Bush.

I just think feminism is still very relevant. I'm proud to be a feminist, and I don't mind being hyper-vigilant about it. Especially when women in France still have to get hymen reconstructive surgery to get married. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/world ... ei=5087%0A)

Back to the topic, I will concede that that there are both sides to this Hillary debate. Yes, there were times she played the sexism card. And there were times that progressive liberals may have given her more slack because of fears of being called "sexists". But there were also times that she had to put with a lot of BS and gender related insults that were harsher then the other candidates had to face.

Ok. I'm getting tired of defending Hillary :)
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nadine wrote:Ok. I'm getting tired of defending Hillary :)
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HerrHerr wrote:Can we just deal with the issues, please?
Sure, right after you make me a sandwich.
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kbadr wrote:but it seems like she did try to play the gender card in her favor.
That can't even be a debatable point. Of course she used her gender... and why wouldn't she?

It has zero to do with my original intent in this thread, but since it's been brought up, it gives even less of a footing for people like Ferraro to express such indignation.
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Jeff wrote: The End
Oops. Didn't see this before that last one. Sorry folks.
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