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Wes said
I almost made a Bob Barr joke...
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Lindsey wrote:Wes said
I almost made a Bob Barr joke...
185 Bobs walk into a Barr...
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The Brigadier wrote:I think an Obama/Richardson ticket would be a good thing. All this chatter about Clinton being his running mate, though. I would have been open to that idea (at all) if the primary season had not been so replete with vitriol between them.
Agreed. Richardson would pull Hispanics so I like the choice from a demographic standpoint. He also has foreign policy experience and demonstrated the most clearly articulated position on education in the debates I saw. At the very least this guy needs to be in the cabinet somewhere - I'd be thrilled with him as Sec'y of Education.

As to the "dream ticket" idea: if I was Obama, having Hilary, Bill and Michelle in the same room would be the stuff of nightmares.
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My brother in law had this great idea for a t-shirt, but I made it into a poster instead for funsies. I am sure he is not hte first to come up with it, but it was the first place I heard it. Here you go...

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improvstitute wrote:My brother in law had this great idea for a t-shirt, but I made it into a poster instead for funsies. I am sure he is not hte first to come up with it, but it was the first place I heard it. Here you go...

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I think Obama used that line when he and Hillary (and maybe McCain also) were doing some big promo with the WCW.
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http://swagdog.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp ... uct=148342

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpTVP3CP ... re=related

It looks like there are a lot of T-shirts with that phrase, but I couldn't find any that use Shepard Fairey's ("Andre the Giant Has a Posse") art with it. I kinda feel behind the times for having not heard the track, "Do You Smell What The Rock is Cookin'?" until after I saw this T-shirt idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kLbRgTb ... re=related
(The above link is not exactly that track).

And this is where Obama said that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHJhVBemBmA
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That was expected, and it is big news. He's going to have a lot more cash on hand than McCain (like maybe 3 times as much--and remember a ton of that comes from small donors like the people here on this board). This does a lot of interesting things to the campaign. He can pour resources into states he's probably not going to win, like Georgia and Arizona, but in the process he makes McCain play defense in those places, which means fewer McCain resources for places like Ohio, Missouri, and Virginia. The strategy will be to bleed McCain's campaign to death. Couldn't happen to a nicer 'maverick.'
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So wait.... he's going to pull a Regan on McCain? oh the irony.
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What about the backlash? It does seem a little disengenuous to reject public financing and claim it's because the system is broken, when it's transparent that the main reason is that he knows he can easily fundraise over the limit.
In a statement Thursday, a McCain spokeswoman said that the Democrat "revealed himself to be just another typical politician who will do and say whatever is most expedient" and accused Obama of undermining the public financing system.

"The true test of a candidate for president is whether he will stand on principle and keep his word to the American people," said Jill Hazelbaker, McCain's communications director. "Barack Obama has failed that test today, and his reversal of his promise to participate in the public finance system undermines his call for a new type of politics."
I definitely like Obama, and want him to win, but McCain's statements do ring a little true. Didn't Obama promise to use the public finance system way back when?
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I would take the McCain comments a little more seriously had they not themselves reversed their position on public financing unilaterally during the primary--opting in to secure a loan and to get ballot access in several states, then opting out when they were about to exceed the federal spending caps. They've actually probably been breaking the law for the past few months, but the FEC doesn't have a quorum to hear the complaint against them because the Bush administration wanted to appoint an odious dude who specializes in pursuing bogus "voter fraud" cases, ie coming up with ways to keep brown people and old people and old brown poor people away from the polls and the Democrats said hell no we're not voting in that dude.

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shando wrote: ...the Bush administration wanted to appoint an odious dude...
I would love to put the word 'odious' on Bush's teleprompter and see what sort of pronunciation he came up with.
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Roy Janik wrote:I definitely like Obama, and want him to win, but McCain's statements do ring a little true. Didn't Obama promise to use the public finance system way back when?
Yes, he did in 2007. And he told Larry King that the system works. And it's an issue that was important to him that he has been pursuing for a while.

And then he changed his mind.

For this issue, I'm disappointed in Obama, and it worries me.

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nadine wrote:And then he changed his mind.
He did say that he was the candidate of change...
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nadine wrote:
Roy Janik wrote:I definitely like Obama, and want him to win, but McCain's statements do ring a little true. Didn't Obama promise to use the public finance system way back when?
Yes, he did in 2007. And he told Larry King that the system works. And it's an issue that was important to him that he has been pursuing for a while.

And then he changed his mind.

For this issue, I'm disappointed in Obama, and it worries me.
This issue seems exactly like talking about LOST to me. I understand the criticism, and I believe the blunder surely warrants a mention, but it doesn't bother me at all, and I'm still very much looking forward to January 2009.
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