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Posted: September 14th, 2006, 11:25 am
by Wesley
Oops.
I somehow missed Val's post in reading the debate portions. If you have it under control awesome. If you'd like me to help out in any way, I'm available.

I just want to make sure this happens.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 11:36 am
by shando
beardedlamb wrote:
shando wrote:I'd like to follow up by saying I'm a little surprised by most of the reactions, even Jeremey's (kind of), to this news.
kbadr wrote: Except that the awards show we were discussing before was going to be totally internal. It seemed to me (and still does, actually) like masturbation.
shando wrote: This assumes that an internal set of awards wouldn't be publicized. Why assume that? I know for certain, based on discussions I've had, that the Chronicle would run something if we did an awards ceremony. Even if it were just a list of recipients, which is essentially what they do with the B. Iden Payne recipients. Except in the former case, we'd be our own story as opposed to one mention out of fifty.

And I'm not saying the B. Iden's idea is a bad one at all. I'm just musing on the wildly disparate reactions to an award genreated by the exact same internal and potentially divisive mechanisms.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 11:39 am
by Rachel
Thank you Wes!
Yes - we will make this happen and your help is much appreciated!
I just spoke with Andy - and we have about two weeks to make this happen.
I will email you Wes & Val and Andy...


also on another note

"Masturbation is...
a NORMAL, healthy activity practiced by boys and girls, men and women, married or single, of ALL ages..."


- that's straight from the Internet. The Internet said so!

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 12:16 pm
by valetoile
Rachel wrote:
also on another note

"Masturbation is...
a NORMAL, healthy activity practiced by boys and girls, men and women, married or single, of ALL ages..."


- that's straight from the Internet. The Internet said so!
Hear, hear! I think masturbation has gotten a bad rap, and to treat it as a shameful activity is to say that you are ashamed of your own body, of the love you have for yourself. Internal awards are a beautiful and generous way for us to show the love we have for each other. They are a unique opportunity to give the people you love and care about, the people who have worked hard and supported us all, a small bit of recognition. If we can all approach this with a generous spirit of love, and the realization that beinig able to tell people how much they mean to you is a gift for both the giver AND the rercipient, then these awards will have served their purpose.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 12:24 pm
by shando
And let's not forget that tons of awards are internal. B. Iden Paynes, hell the Oscars. We've just been invited to a better attended circle jerk.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 1:43 pm
by beardedlamb
the difference is a community (AIC) giving itself awards versus a larger established organization separate from the AIC giving that community an award. It has the caveat of being recognized by a separate entity as opposed to a group that's only been around for one year "recognizing" itself.

it's also a theatre organization recognizing an improv organization. it's the rectangle finally paying attention to the square. or in this case, the squares finally paying attention to us. wawka wawka.

don't make me quote myself again. grrrr.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 2:07 pm
by shando
beardedlamb wrote:the difference is a community (AIC) giving itself awards versus a larger established organization separate from the AIC giving that community an award.
All I'm saying is that by this logic, the first annual B. Iden Payne's should never have happened, either.

Frankly, I only brought this up because the selection process (we pick the "winner" ourselves) is the exact same process that so many people had problems with in the first discussion. I'd be much more excited by this (and I'm all for it for the reasons people have already mentioned) if outside viewers were being asked to come in and make their selections as they do with all the shows and performers. That would really mean the circle was really paying attention to the square.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 2:21 pm
by beardedlamb
shando wrote: All I'm saying is that by this logic, the first annual B. Iden Payne's should never have happened, either.

Frankly, I only brought this up because the selection process (we pick the "winner" ourselves) is the exact same process that so many people had problems with in the first discussion. I'd be much more excited by this (and I'm all for it for the reasons people have already mentioned) if outside viewers were being asked to come in and make their selections as they do with all the shows and performers. That would really mean the circle was really paying attention to the square.[/i]
i see what you're saying. i guess my hangup comes from the same place in both cases. it's hard to have an outside body to make these decisions when we're clearly the ones who know best. maybe this is why something like the critic's table awards seem more genuine to me.

i cautiously support this initiative.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 2:39 pm
by shando
I cautioulsy support Jeremy. No wait, I wholeheartedly support Jeremy.

Posted: September 14th, 2006, 4:38 pm
by Wesley
maybe this is why something like the critic's table awards seem more genuine to me.

What do we have to do to get one of these?

Also, does Cannes allow improv? I want golden wreaths aplenty for all the troupe flyers.