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Posted: May 23rd, 2010, 1:50 pm
by arthursimone
Jeff wrote:
I'd rather play a pot smoking game.
majcher wrote:
Jack turns into a smoke monster
Posted: May 23rd, 2010, 3:56 pm
by HerrHerr
TOP TEN FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT LOST SEASON 6:
10) Claire can't take a bath for three years? okay...
9) No Walt

I'm taking the sub.
7) Claire's boar skull baby
6) Ben's face punch flashback
5) TNT accident number 2
4) Search and Destroy whiskey time
3) Charlie's hand flashback
2) Penny!
1) Metal behaves strangely
Posted: May 23rd, 2010, 4:02 pm
by happywaffle
11. Kate has been wearing the same hot little gray t-shirt since way back in season 5 (but she had to go and bloody it up, dangit)
Posted: May 23rd, 2010, 4:04 pm
by Matt
majcher wrote:majcher wrote:Jastroch wrote:This thread made me start watching this damned show. Damn you all.
Likewise. Jerks.
Also, I have five bucks that says that Jack turns into a smoke monster at some point during the finale.
I will take that bet, sir.
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 12:09 am
by Matt
*sigh*
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 12:43 am
by hujhax
*sniffle*
--
peter rogers @ home | http://hujhax.livejournal.com
It is a rare man who succeeds in the face of comfort.
-- Terry Rossio
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 1:20 am
by Jeff
Good-bye

Posted: May 24th, 2010, 2:46 am
by arthursimone
i like this review:
http://io9.com/5545911/lost-was-the-ultimate-long-con
and I'll build on it...
I remember the 'holy fuck!' feeling when that light first came on in the hatch in that season cliffhanger, feeding an obsessive and exhausted Locke's search for purpose. Perhaps what I'm feeling now is that the 'ultimate meaning' looks futile in the face of such wonderful character driven and ultimately very human 'search for purpose.' Maybe I'm reading too much Joseph Campbell?
this final season split the narratives; one is the real-time island, one the alternate 'real-life' dream... thinking about it, they both accomplished what they set out to do, but I just don't understand the split. The execution is fine, it's like the rationale behind the execution is sloppy, you know? The finale was
equal to the sum of its parts, which is satisfying yet also disappointing.
I blame the disconnect between ultimately flexible (i use that in a negative way) storytellers and network executives that live and die by seasons, but that's a pretty fundamental issue that no amount of forum post griping is ever going to solve.
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 3:04 am
by Rev. Jordan T. Maxwell
i absolutely loved every minute (cliff punch!)...i just want to say a quick thank you to all of the AICers present for letting me share such a profound moment in my life with you all. i'll post more, i'm sure, as the ideas and events ferment in my brain. and Jeff's laughter slowly but surely disappears...

Posted: May 24th, 2010, 11:53 am
by Lants
Lost was the best Network television drama.
You just have to keep in mind the limitations with being a prime-time show on ABC or any network run by old men and idiots who don't even like television. Lost did the best they could with that in mind.
The series was so compelling that pretty-much any end is going to be hugely disappointing to a lot of people. If you end the series how people want it to end, you get called out for being predictable and pandering, but if you don't pander at least a little, you're going to get it from the other side.
I agree with a lot of what was said in the review Arthur posted except that the reviewer was over-reacting and not dealing with the fact that things didn't go "how he wanted".
I had some issues with this finale... I wanted a bigger final fight. I wanted it to be more difficult to kill Smokey. I wanted Jack to reveal some kind of power that we never knew Jacob had, giving more weight to "Now you're like me", but mostly I wanted more reason to care who gets off the island (other than Claire, who we've been forced to lose interest in getting back to Aaron).
I'm not going to be angry about it, though. I'm still sitting on how I feel about the last 15 minutes and how I interpret it, but I'm accepting it. That's what happened.
Now I can go back and watch, knowing what I know and put things together. That should be fun.
Cuse and Lindelof were initially each given a different half of the information about how the series ends and had to keep each other in check without revealing to the other what they knew.
I don't know which is which, but clearly they're Jacob and MIB and we're the Losties. They were thrown into this position without really knowing why or where exactly it would end. They make up the rules even though some of the rules don't make much sense. They've been sending us through different tests and mazes, some worth it, some not. Some of us lost faith and quit early, some of us stuck around until the end only to feel betrayed, and some of us were saved. What's undeniable though is that it was something special and different... it was a unique experience and I'm glad to have had it.
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 4:45 pm
by Marc Majcher
I'm just going to go with the theory that the entire six seasons of the show were a hallucination that Jack had as he lay dying in the bamboo after the original crash. That's why they showed the wreckage on the beach again at the end, there. I mean, if they're just going to be all, "psyche! we were just fucking with you - none of that stuff you just watched mattered at all" anyway, why not?
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 5:32 pm
by HerrHerr
We can't let this thread die! We must come back!
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 8:00 pm
by Jeff
majcher wrote:I'm just going to go with the theory that the entire six seasons of the show were a hallucination that Jack had as he lay dying in the bamboo after the original crash. That's why they showed the wreckage on the beach again at the end, there. I mean, if they're just going to be all, "psyche! we were just fucking with you - none of that stuff you just watched mattered at all" anyway, why not?
That's way off base, Marc. It was all important in the context of the LOST universe, and nothing in the finale conveyed otherwise.
And there was no carnage in the wreckage at the end because all the passengers were either gone or buried. Except for Rose, Bernard, Ben, and Hurley.
I thought Andy, whose favorite character is Hurley, might be pleased to learn that, ultimately, Hurley was the immortal (-ish) protector of the Island.
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 10:05 pm
by lizardcatking
I'm just going to go with the theory that the entire six seasons of the show were a hallucination that Jack had as he lay dying in the bamboo after the original crash. That's why they showed the wreckage on the beach again at the end, there. I mean, if they're just going to be all, "psyche! we were just fucking with you - none of that stuff you just watched mattered at all" anyway, why not?
Briefly had that concern too, but different clothes convinced me otherwise.
Was that final location where the continental dharma station was? (ep "316" I believe)
Posted: May 24th, 2010, 11:46 pm
by Jeff
lizardcatking wrote:Was that final location where the continental dharma station was?
The church with Foucault's Pendulum in the basement? Yes. Except the previous time we saw them there, that place was real. This time, it wasn't.