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Aw shit! I just finished season 5. Did I mention aw shit?!?

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GOD!!!


Wow! What an amazing season finale opener. I'm speechless.

Wow!
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Whole new Losties seem to exist in a universe created when the bomb went off.

The biggest differences on the plane:

*Boone's sister, Shannon, wasn't there.
*Desmond was on the plane when he wasn't before.
*Hurley said he was the luckiest man on the planet and owned the Clucky Chicken company, not just one restaurant.
*Christian's body, Jack's Dad, wasn't on the plane.

It showed more than just what would've happened if the plane didn't crash. Some of their lives changed before they ever got on the plane. The only one I can begin to explain is Desmond. I think the Desmond we all know chose to appear on that plane for some reason and can do so thanks to some weird time traveling/universe hopping powers he has that we've seen before.

Also, it's not simply a matter of them all having even more tragic lives if they didn't crash on the island. From the scene between Locke and Jack, I got a feeling that Jack was going to help Locke walk again and Locke was going to help Jack generally be a better person. That makes it more interesting to me. Some may have a more tragic life, like Sun and Jin, but others may be better off like Claire and Locke.

Smocke/Flocke/Blocke (whichever you want to call him) looked fucking scary when he said he wanted to "go home" and leave the island.

All in all, a good start to the final season for me.
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Justin D. wrote:
All in all, a good start to the final season for me.
I was downright irritated they chose to draw out Juliet's death for no real reason other than more sad music. Assholes already got me choked up at her death at last season's finale, aint' gonna work twice!
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arthursimone wrote:
Justin D. wrote:
All in all, a good start to the final season for me.
I was downright irritated they chose to draw out Juliet's death for no real reason other than more sad music. Assholes already got me choked up at her death at last season's finale, aint' gonna work twice!
Yeah, story-structure-wise it seemed a little wonky, but I think it could pay off later, particularly if we learn *how* Juliet knew that "it worked."

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Justin D. wrote: Smocke/Flocke/Blocke (whichever you want to call him) looked fucking scary when he said he wanted to "go home" and leave the island.
This was my favorite part. That look went beyond anger or malice, that was a look of evil... Props to Terry O'Quinn for putting on a face we haven't seen in a long time (since Earth 2 maybe?)
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That was my favorite time I've ever had watching a television show. I can't wait to see it again and get some of my thoughts about it straightened out.

At this point, the emerging battle between lightness and darkness is embodied in Sayid and Locke. Boy, that's something.

Peter and I were talking about this: is it starting to appear that maybe the reason the island ever existed in the first place was to imprison and contain Jacob's nemesis? I suspect that Esau (another name for the nameless guy/man in black/Jacob's nemesis/New Locke/Smoke Monster) wants to go wreak devastation and chaos all over Earth. It seems like that. We'll see.

So, the Ajira people-- you know, those uppity revolutionaries toting Locke's corpse around-- and Richard Alpert and Ben and Sun and the Locke-less Monster, et al, are in 2007, right? And right across the island from them, also in 2007, are Hurley, Jin, Sawyer, Kate, Jack, the Kung Fu Hustle guy, and Sayid/Jacob. So that's one time line. 2007.

In another time line, it's 2004, and our heroes are in LA, and things seem relatively extremely normal, and there variations on the Previous 2004 that Justin mentioned above.

One could assume that the new 2004 is merely an example that "it worked," as Juliet eventually got around to saying after she died, but the fact that Christian Shepard's body is missing makes it clear that all is not right when the heroes have never (knowingly!) crashed on the island.

All I can say at this point is-- and I think Jack's peculiar deja vu moment with Desmond (though that can be explained by the chat the two had a while back at that sports arena) on the plane is intended to foreshadow this-- that I believe the two time lines are going to converge. I think they will have to.
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arthursimone wrote:I was downright irritated they chose to draw out Juliet's death for no real reason other than more sad music. Assholes already got me choked up at her death at last season's finale, aint' gonna work twice!
It did remind me of the continuity error of her mouth being bloody in one shot and not in the next.
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I am curious to see if Sayid is the reincarnation of Jacob. That would make the most sense. And it is especially poetic that Esau took on the body of a perpetual victim and Jacob would be taking on the body of a torturer.

And I like that the shift seems to be from good/evil to chaos order.
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Asaf wrote:I am curious to see if Sayid is the reincarnation of Jacob. That would make the most sense. And it is especially poetic that Esau took on the body of a perpetual victim and Jacob would be taking on the body of a torturer.

And I like that the shift seems to be from good/evil to chaos order.
I agree with all this, except that I'm more than 99% sure already that Sayid is Jacob.
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Post by Lants »

Arthur, I'm with you. I think they did that to get the "It worked" out post finale, but they drew the death out too long.

Desmond was never able to actually warp his body anywhere before. He was only able to become unstuck in time and see things he will see in his own future.

I'm curious about why things changed for certain people. At first I thought it was only people touched by Jacob and maybe that's still the case.

Also, I feel like it's almost TOO obvious that Sayid will become Jacob.
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