i just wanted to clarify: a figure of $900 for teachers is for 2 teachers. that's $450 each. for 40 hours of teaching, plus at least another 10 hours of prep work (counting planning the curriculum, getting there early and setting up each day, etc.) i don't think that's an overly generous amount of money.
and if we're now talking about an entire day of camp, i think that 1 teacher and 1 TA is unreasonable. imagine trying to entertain 12 ten year olds for 8 hours with just 2 adults. i do not think that is going to work out. i'd stick with 2 teachers plus a TA. it's going to make us look a lot more pulled together and therefore a lot more professional.
and professional = good word of mouth = more success next year.
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Andy Crouch is a vainglorious bastard...I mean...
I love you Andy.
Wes knows how I feel about him, all this stuff on the forum (especially the business vs. fun) is discussion (and that's exactly what a forum is for, discussion).
Thanks for the clarification Christina, $450/week for each teacher isn't bad at all. It makes sense, and having one TA is another good idea. I think that like this things will work out well. I don't think it has as much to do with what we charge and what we pay teachers as it has to do with how we will push this, advertise, and make sure each class has 12 kids in it no matter what.
I love you Andy.
Wes knows how I feel about him, all this stuff on the forum (especially the business vs. fun) is discussion (and that's exactly what a forum is for, discussion).
Thanks for the clarification Christina, $450/week for each teacher isn't bad at all. It makes sense, and having one TA is another good idea. I think that like this things will work out well. I don't think it has as much to do with what we charge and what we pay teachers as it has to do with how we will push this, advertise, and make sure each class has 12 kids in it no matter what.
I agree with Phil to the extent that a business is not inherently cold. Bad, joyless business is cold.
I want to be happy, put improv in the world and make enough money to do both of those things. I think doing both of those things well means making some serious money eventually, but it is always subordinate to being happy and putting improv in the world. The organization I want to build and be a part of undestands that on a fundamental level and doesn't jump immediately to the bottom line and the "cold, hard realities of life" when faced with decisions.
The Austin Improv Collective should be exemplary. There should be articles in Forbes ten years from now lauding our unconventional, positive, explosive business model. If you don't have faith in that model, maybe you should be doing something else.
I want to be happy, put improv in the world and make enough money to do both of those things. I think doing both of those things well means making some serious money eventually, but it is always subordinate to being happy and putting improv in the world. The organization I want to build and be a part of undestands that on a fundamental level and doesn't jump immediately to the bottom line and the "cold, hard realities of life" when faced with decisions.
The Austin Improv Collective should be exemplary. There should be articles in Forbes ten years from now lauding our unconventional, positive, explosive business model. If you don't have faith in that model, maybe you should be doing something else.
Do we have a model?
I'm not trying to be cold (and if you think anything I've proposed is cold, I invite you to sit in on the phone call I'm about to make to a freelancer that is behind schedule). All I've proposed is paying teachers well and finding other ways to cut costs in order to stay competitive with existing and well-established camps, including the minimal possibility of looking for a new space that charges less. Although, Andy seems to have negotiated a lower and fair price so my concern is assuaged.
I see nothing but growth and success for the AIC and all of its endeavors.
I'm not trying to be cold (and if you think anything I've proposed is cold, I invite you to sit in on the phone call I'm about to make to a freelancer that is behind schedule). All I've proposed is paying teachers well and finding other ways to cut costs in order to stay competitive with existing and well-established camps, including the minimal possibility of looking for a new space that charges less. Although, Andy seems to have negotiated a lower and fair price so my concern is assuaged.
I see nothing but growth and success for the AIC and all of its endeavors.
