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Postby poltergasm » November 15th, 2012, 12:58 am

PaGeN wrote:
poltergasm wrote:I'm an anti-theist. Which means I'm an agnostic who hopes a personal, omnipotent god doesn't exist.


Andy - your comment reminded me of the lyrics from a song I sang as a child.

"Now troubles are many, they're as deep as a well
I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell"


I just love that.
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Postby ChadW » November 15th, 2012, 3:39 am

Religion is indeed a rough term for those without a churchy thing to provide vague cultural in-grouping. E.g., for atheists. So, I categorize!

ideologic: anti-dogmatist (cf. Russell, Dawkins, Hitchens)
theologic: strong atheist (with the poetry of pantheism-- "Saganism")
epistemic: teapot agnostic (Peircian best-model-fitting, aka science at it best)
ontologic: a-posteriori (see "epistemic")
metaphysic: emergent conciousness on physical reality (see "ontologic")
ethic: total individual sovereignty (with humanist sympathies) / non-aggression (with economic utilitarianism when things need get done in common spaces)
philosophic: stoicism (the outlook, not the metaphysics; ends up convergent with zen-ish buddhism most of the time)

I do miss a good, honest, healthy, friendly religious intercourse. Used to have quite the thriving, ongoing discussions back in the dorm. I think this (the Austin imp community writ large, less the message board) is one of the first environments I might feel safe plunging back into that territory.
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Postby acrouch » November 15th, 2012, 3:06 pm

Stone cold atheist with zen leanings.
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Postby diamond9 » November 15th, 2012, 4:44 pm

I agree with several postings here. The closest to me would be what Rev. Maxwell and Ryan Austin said. I call myself Christian because I believe in God/Jesus, but also have strong Tao/Zen leanings. Ryan said it best... my religion is LOVE. That's what truly matters in the end.

And I am also an ordained minister with the Universal Life Church.
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Postby jillybee72 » November 17th, 2012, 1:59 am

I am a secular humanist.

I was raised fake Catholic, or Cat-lick as we call it when you're raised to make your grandparents think your parents are still practicing catholics, so you cram for your first communion in the car on the way over, and have a "sign of the cross" review to make sure you don't do it with your left hand...again. "Lovely Lady dressed in something something...."
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Postby Spots » November 17th, 2012, 4:15 am

I was baptized as an Episcopalian in the way that Jill described. I almost converted to Presbyterian but was denied due to stomach issues I had that day.


I'm a total Atheist. In the sense that I believe that none of the archetypes humans have invented as our gods are actually our gods. Still open to evidence on the contrary. A new exciting archetype discovered in a microscope? Parallel universe gods or evidence of our memories converting into stardust after we die? Sure. Show me evidence.

Perhaps I'm agnostic. But I feel that agnostic is not a very proactive sounding word or being.


I'm not undecided. I'm not static. I'm not waiting. I'm constantly seeking.



My faith is Science.
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Postby Ruby W. » November 18th, 2012, 2:37 pm

This is a great thread! I love getting this type of stuff out in the open.

I do not believe that there is a separate, god-like entity. But I do believe that we are all connected by some sort of force/energy (but that such a force/energy comes from us, not something else.)

so I'm not sure if that's atheist or agnostic. But I'm one of those.
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Postby Rev. Jordan T. Maxwell » November 18th, 2012, 4:18 pm

Ruby W. wrote:This is a great thread! I love getting this type of stuff out in the open.

I do not believe that there is a separate, god-like entity. But I do believe that we are all connected by some sort of force/energy (but that such a force/energy comes from us, not something else.)

so I'm not sure if that's atheist or agnostic. But I'm one of those.


i'm pretty sure that means you're a Jedi. 8)
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Postby scott.hearne » November 19th, 2012, 1:05 pm

I am a Christian Mystic = Eastern Orthodox. A former Atheist/Agnostic whose own logic and rationalism became his defeat.

God as Mystery

"Unknown and yet well known." - 2 Corinthians 6:9

"God cannot be grasped by the mind, if he could be grasped, he would not be God." Evagrius of Pontus

“One day some of the brethren came to see Abba Anthony, and among them was Abba Joseph. Wishing to test them, the old man mentioned a text from Scripture, and starting with the youngest he asked them what it meant. Each explained it as best he could. But to each one the old man said, “You have not yet found the answer.” Last of all he said to Abba Joseph, “And what do you think the text means?” He replied, “I do not know.” Then Abba Antony said, “Truly, Abba Joseph has found the way, for he said: I do not know.” - Sayings of the Desert Fathers

Love

"The perfect person does not only try to avoid evil. Nor does he do good for fear of punishment, still less in order to qualify for the hope of a promised reward.

The perfect person does good through love.

His actions are not motivated by desire for personal benefit, so he does not have personal advantage as his aim. But as soon as he has realized the beauty of doing good, he does it with all his energies and in all that he does.

He is not interested in fame, or a good reputation, or a human or divine reward.

The rule of life for a perfect person is to be in the image and likeness of God." -St. Clement of Alexandria
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Postby KathyRose » November 19th, 2012, 10:51 pm

PaGeN wrote:
poltergasm wrote:I'm an anti-theist. Which means I'm an agnostic who hopes a personal, omnipotent god doesn't exist.


Andy - your comment reminded me of the lyrics from a song I sang as a child.

"Now troubles are many, they're as deep as a well
I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell"


a song you sang "as a child"? good grief!
Peter, Paul & Mary or Blood, Sweat & Tears? [either way, makes me feel old!]

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Postby SarahMarie » November 20th, 2012, 1:07 pm

I think it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist...

That said, I say I'm an atheist so I don't have to explain in detail my opposition to organized religion.

THAT said, I'm really just trying to find out what happens to my fist when I relax my hand...

I honor peace, extend love and experience existence. I am that.
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Postby sara farr » November 20th, 2012, 2:36 pm

I'm most similar to Unitarian Universalism (100%).

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Postby Ryan Hill » November 20th, 2012, 5:53 pm

sara farr wrote:I'm most similar to Unitarian Universalism (100%).


I identified as a Unitarian Universalist for a long time. Usually when I take religious quizzes I end up as a flavor of Buddhism.

I also don't believe in a personal God, believe that love and compassion are paramount, and I do think we're somehow connected in a very real way.

This conversation could go on for ever.
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Postby SarahMarie » November 20th, 2012, 5:59 pm

It's cool to see people sound off so openly! We are all different and that's pretty neat.

I love you AIC.
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Postby PaGeN » November 20th, 2012, 6:05 pm

Sara - thanks for the link. As I have feared for so long, I am closet Liberal Quaker! I have to leave my Liberal Methodist Church now. :-(
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